Software developer György Nagy has been sentenced to one and a half years probation for denying the holocaust

Thursday, January 31, 2013

The first ever criminal conviction was handed down for holocaust denial in Hungary. Yesterday, the court of appeals affirmed the lower court decision and sentenced software developer György Nagy one and a half years probation for denying the holocaust.

In addition, the court ordered György Nagy to visit either the Páva street Holocaust Memorial Centre in Budapest or the Auschwitz Memorial Center in Poland or the Yad Vashem Memorial in Jerusalem at least three times and describe his thoughts on the visits in an essay.

The lower court sentenced György Nagy one and a half years probation and ordered his supervision for denying the holocaust on June 12, 2012.

Nagy was taken into custody on October 23, 2011 during a demonstration as he held up a sign in Hebrew that said "The Shoah did not happen".

During court proceedings, Nagy signed court documents in the ancient Hungarian Rovas script rather than using Latin letters claiming that he had the constitutional right to use his mother tongue.

Nagy and his lawyer have questioned the legal basis of the sentence claiming that criminalizing the denial of the holocaust is contrary to the Basic Law. The court however, stated that in certain cases to protect human dignity the freedom of expression law can be overruled.

(index.hu – hungarianambiance.com)

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is insane there are alot of jews who deny the jewish communist crimes in Europe, cant they get prison?

Anonymous said...

bastards

Géza said...

end of free speech in Hungary!

Anonymous said...

This is why the Jew must be thrown out of our societies. "Racist" laws are their creation, and intended to silence any talk of their crimes.

Anonymous said...

WE have to let the Jews know, that Europe is NOT America. Namely, immigration, settlement, does NOT give them an automatic right EQUAL to the inhabitants of the host country. (Ironically, this particular notion is enshrined with/in the native Amerindians' rights and treaties in America; a non-indian can live on the reservation with the Indians' permission, but have no inherent RIGHT to live there, or interfere with their affairs.)
Full rights may be extended to those, who PROVABLY have given up their "ethnicity" and have become wholeheartedly a member of the host nation. However, as soon as anyone overheard that I'm a this and and the that and/or caught agitating/working in behalf of a later-settled minority he/she should immediately lose the awarded status. Crypto Jews and Gypsies would exist of course, but they'd have to be careful and circumspect, reducing the ability to do harm to the host, indigenous nation.

European nations shed rivers of blood for their homelands. Americans didn't, so they don't know the difference. Americans can be casual about immigration, as it was not THEIR land to begin with. Europeans CAN NOT be, and even the notion is offensive and obscene. The circumstances of population of the lands were vastly different.

And yes, indeed, it was a HoloHOAX; any careful historic and cold, thorough SCIENTIFIC (math, physics, chemistry) study proves without a doubt, that it never happened.

Anonymous said...

This is a freedom of speech issue

Naturally the Jews would like to control speech in America as they do in Europe

The Jews have Israel,now it's time for the Jews home and get out of Europe and America

Anonymous said...

"European nations shed rivers of blood for their homelands."

You forgot to mention over small pieces of real estate

Oh BTW: how many Americans lost their lives over

idiotic land grabs by family members [kings queens] in Europe ..and Americans, settled the dispute..

It took the United States to bring down the Soviet Union..... Hungary certainly didn't do anything except send refugees to the United States after the 1956 Uprising ....

Anonymous said...

No, Anon, it was Hungary's 1956 which precipitated the downfall of the SU.
That was THE critical event - like it or not. And any half assed historian KNOWS it.
That the US brought down the SU is a fanciful notion of stupid and underducated Americans. Decades(!) before (Hayek) the fall, observant and well educated intlligent economists (Gerald Celente is one of them) and to a lesser extent, historians predicted it, due to the economic nonsense they practiced.

Hungary's relentless (economic) pushing the envelope - while still in the Combloc - starting at the end of the 1960s, contributed to no small extent of the SU's downfall also.

You also forgot - conveniently - that it was HU who opened the border to the East Germans in 1989 September, which was ANOTHER HUGE political precipitator to the demise of the SU. At the time it shook the world, and was a sensation. The Czechs opened their doors a month later. WE and everybody KNEW then, that the SU is going down, just as we KNOW today, that Amerika is going down. (Tough)

WE (HU) had a LOT more to do with the downfall of the SU than the USA did - Reagan nowithstanding - so stop congratulating yourself. We just did it slowly, surreptitiously and (after '56) peacefully.

America's intervention in WWI Europe was an unmitigated disaster, leading to Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and WWII (Patrick Buchanan's book is very instructive for Americans to face the facts and the music)

In your high school history they lied to you - a lot.

LEARN Amerikan, learn, you have an awful lot to catch up on.


About the Amerindians; it is interesting to note that the people who set those treaties and reservations up (as cruel as they were) understood, that the natives of their land have inaliable rights, which no newcomer (or his /her offspring) has, or CAN acquire no matter how long he lives there at the indulgence of the native nation. Try to settle on Navajo land, you'll find out soon enough that your stupid notions don't apply unless you are Navajo. Even Jews cannot settle there. Notice no matter how hard the Jews try to get into Indian Casino business (lotsa money is like a magnet) they cannot get nowhere; not even to live on their land.
Europe is in fact a bunch of similar reservations (called countries) with native populations going back well over a thousand years with different languages, customs, identity, except the borders connect, rather than sitting in the middle of another vast country.

Anonymous said...

If Holocaust is a fact then why is there a need to arrest people?

Anonymous said...

When the "truth" need coercion (jail) to get accepted, it is not the truth.
Remember the "truths" of the communist era in HU and how were they enforced? Sounds familiar? I thought so...

Truth fears no scrutiny, and can stand on its own.

Anonymous said...

Hollycaust remembrance day - a day to re-educate yourself to the agenda.

If you think you have it rough, think of all those Palestinians, Syrians, Iraqis, Afghanis and Libyans experiencing a real geo-political massacre. Iran is next on the "hit list" for regional hegemony.

The Victory Hour Special Broadcast Jan 30, 2013

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/the-victory-hour-special-broadcast-jan-30-2013/


Once again Europe and the entire world are bludgeoned with International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

From the treatment of Blacks in Israel, daily abuse and killings of Palestinians, to threats against Europe, European Bureau Chief Egeria exposes the whining utter hypocrisy of Supremacist "***Tribery***".

Also featured is an Italian news article from 1921 titled Poland and the "***Tribery***" Question, illustrating the unchanging and time worn tactics of the tribe.

Anonymous said...

In the 60's anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to "integrate" or face penalties for being "naziswhowantokill6millionjews." Now anti-whites are counting down the days for when ALL and ONLY white children become minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. It's Genocide. "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

Anonymous said...

Truth fears no scrutiny - indeed.
When lies are presented as "truths" and are enforced with the point of a gun, you need NO FURTHER PROOF, that they are LIES.

No need to scrutinize the claims of the Jews any longer. You need no science, logic, documentation any further. The act of punishment for not believing the DOGMA, is the unassailable solid proof anyone needs.

Anonymous said...

"No, Anon, it was Hungary's 1956 which precipitated the downfall of the SU.
That was THE critical event - like it or not. And any half assed historian KNOWS it.
That the US brought down the SU is a fanciful notion of stupid"..

Naturally, you, being a Hungarian, would make the ridiculous claim of "The critical event" is what brought down the Soviet Union...

I'm literally LMAO...

So, the uprising in the former Czechoslovakia, lead by Alexander Dubeck, in 1968 or the Solidarity movement lead by Lech Walesa, in Poland, had nothing to do with your so called claim of "precipitated"..

So, your country Hungary, with 10 million people "precipitated" the downfall of the Soviet Union...

Your country did all of the above... without one nuclear weapon...

without one Battle Ship [your one and only Hungarian Battle Ship was sunk by Italian frog men in WW I ]..I think you have just over dosed on goulash ..but thanks for the entertainment..

BTW: Franz Lizt, never heard of him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYM84n-2Sas

Anonymous said...

Anon:
For Walesa and Dubcek HU'56 showed, that the giant has clay feet. It CAN be resisted. But HU LED the way. Each suppression, HU '56, Dubcek, Walesa weakened the SU. Each event, history now shows, was a defeat for the Soviets, even though at the time it looked like a win.

The new economic mechanism starting in HU at around 1970, pushing the envelope of the socialist dogma/doctrine, in fact was a slow-poison drip into the veins of whole Soviet economic orthodoxy. Opening the HU borders for travel to the West during the same period, had a corrosive effect also on the entire system. When the Russians, and other Comblock countries' tourists saw the better life in HU, the packed stores, the ability to travel, they went home and and asked: If THEY can do it, why can't we? So things changed there too - slowly. HU facilitated the meeting betw. East and West Germans for decades (70s-80s), and don't think that the "Ossies" remained unchanged and unaffected.
Over time, all the Comblockers got "corrupted"; in the 1970s and 80s Russian girls and women were "hunting" for Hungarian men as husbands, to be able to leave the SU and live in HU. So the Russian PUBLIC KNEW - by example - that there can be a better life in an "other socialist country". That of course, created discontent, a different mindset, which slowly but surely corroded the old paradigm and precipitated change.

These things stupid Amerikan, are not done by bombs. You should know, all the bombs of the Russians and now of YOURS in Afghanistan amount to zilch. The Russians lost there, and now you have lost there. ("Afghanistan: The graveyard of empires")

We worked like a slow heart disease and at the end a terminal blodclot, which is slow, but the end result is the same. You think (and can think only) in terms of handgranades (atomics) BECAUSE you are an Amerikan and your tiny brain's motto is: "We've got rockets and atomic bombs". Yet a bunch of goatherders are defeating you in Afghanistan.

BTW IGNORAMUS: The Szent Istvan battleship was lost to two(2) TORPEDOES in WW1, fired from a torpedo boat. That sort of thing happened to plenty of other ships including HUNDREDS of American ships of every sort in the two WWars. Know-nothing moron: There were NO FROGMEN in WW1 Italian or any other, there was no proper breathing apparatus invented yet. The first documented frogman was 20 years LATER dummy.

Learn stupid, LEARN!

No wonder you don't know who Liszt Ferenc was, you really don't know anything.

Anonymous said...

Hey moron what "economic mechanism" also learn how to spell it's "America" ...

What do you make in Hungary ?

Do you make a bicycle..No

You don't even brew beer..

Hungarians sold the company .. lol...

You do have a German Auto manufacture.. Audi

You do make light bulbs... American Tungsten GE

Hey you dopy cowboy ....smokin' cow dong..

How much money did you make last year? about 7 thousand euros..

SDI, Reagan, and the United States brought down the Soviet Union...

Hungary did absolutely nothing ..

get over it..

The population of New York City is 8 million and could smash your county in two weeks

but I have a better idea...

America should send about 10 million blacks to your crap hole county and make it a multicultural rat hole...

Attila the Hun poisoned by his wife..

The scheme concocted by the Italians...


Italy gave you your Royal crown ...

Hungarians are Italy's niggers....

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2/3, 12:37
Adumb kid's impotent rant...
You're laughable and pathetic.
You lost, Amerijoo retard.

Anonymous said...

The Battle Ship Saint Stephen roll over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVOR2tqr_ls

This is my last point ..

If you would have blamed President Wilson for carving up Hungary .. I would have agreed..

Almost 70% of the land mass of Hungary was lost after WW I...and Wilson and his ideas were responsible...

Wilson and his ideas were also responsible for the start of WW II and the rise of Hitler and Bolshevism ...

If you would of said President Eisenhower

abandoned the revolutionaries with regard to the 1956 Hungarian upraising; I would have also,agreed ..

Generalissimo Franco of Spain offered Air Support..

but Hungary playing a part in taking down the Soviet Union ...no..

Marshal Tito was the biggest thorn in the side of the Evil Empire...



BTW: I voted for Pat Buchanan in the primaries and for President when he ran third party in 2000

Anonymous said...

The Globalists are laughing and cheering as these senseless, disrespectful discussions occur.

The Globlists are the winners in these types of "spitting matches" discussions - exactly what they want - the Nationalists insulting each other, dividing the cause and keeping the focus off the Banksters and Globalists. The least the Nationalists could do is - be polite and RESPECTFUL towards one another in discussions.


How do people think wars are started (manipulated) - by manipulating (driving wedges) between parties that should be united. WW1 + WW2 should never have occurred - European played-off (slaughtered) against European and guess who wins (Qui bono ?)? In hindsight, the Nationalists should have played-off and defeated the globalists over the past century. The globalists are not divided - they are united in playing the Nationalists off against each other - the same game that has been successfully played for centuries.


The simple narrative of the past century(s) of wars, communism, geo-politics, etc. is due to the manipulation of the Rothschild Banksters and globalists - humanity is the net loser. Everything else is just a detail of the Globalist Chess Game.


Don't get baited into these senseless "spitting matches" that divide the Nationalists - they detract from the main Cause. Believe it or not, ALL the Nationalists are on the same side - a commonality against the globalists.


Here are some contemporary issues (New World Order - NWO) to discuss and keep the focus on the globalists:


NWO News 3 Febr. 2013
euro-med.dk/?p=29418

NWO News 2 February 2013
euro-med.dk/?p=29411

NWO News 1 Febr. 2013
euro-med.dk/?p=29400


The Post War II New World Order Map: A Proposal to Re-arrange the World after an Allied Victory
Revealed By Irish Historian Thomas Moriarty

www.globalresearch.ca/the-post-war-ii-new-world-order-map-a-proposal-to-re-arrange-the-world-after-an-allied-victory/

Anonymous said...

Debate on European Jews’ origin settled?

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/debate-on-european-jews-origin-settled/

Gene study says Jews of European descent are mix of ancestries, with many hailing from tribes in Caucasus who converted to Judaism and created empire that lasted half a millennium

Jews of European origin are a mix of ancestries, with many hailing from tribes in the Caucasus who converted to Judaism and created an empire that lasted half a millennium, according to a gene study.

The investigation, its author says, should settle a debate that has been roiling for more than two centuries.

Findings of new study support historical record of Middle Eastern Jews settling in North Africa during Classical Antiquity, proselytizing and marrying local populations, forming distinct populations that stayed largely intact for more than 2,000 years.

Jews of European descent, often called Ashkenazim, account for some 90% of the more than 13 million Jews in the world today.

...

Seeking new light in the argument, a study published in the British journal Genome Biology and Evolution, compares the genomes of 1,287 unrelated individuals who hail from eight Jewish and 74 non-Jewish populations.

Geneticist Eran Elhaik of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland, trawled through this small mountain of data in search of single changes in the DNA code that are linked to a group’s geographical origins.

Such telltales have been used in past research to delve into the origins of the Basque people and the pygmy people of central Africa.

Among European Jews, Elhaik found ancestral signatures that pointed clearly to the Caucasus and also, but to a smaller degree, the Middle East.

The results, said Elhaik, give sound backing for the rival theory – the “Khazarian Hypothesis.”

Backed by archaeological findings

Under this concept, eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, a hotchpotch of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries AD and, influenced by Jews from Palestine, converted to Judaism in the 8th century.

The Judeo-Khazars built a flourishing empire, drawing in Jews from Mesopotamia and imperial Byzantium.

They became so successful that they sent offshoots into Hungary and Romania, planting the seeds of a great Diaspora.

But Khazaria collapsed in the 13th century when it was attacked by the Mongols and became weakened by outbreaks of the Black Death.

The Judeo-Khazars fled westwards, settling in the rising Polish Kingdom and in Hungary, where their skills in finance, economics and politics were in demand, and eventually spread to central and western Europe, according to the “Khazarian Hypothesis.”

“We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaised Khazars, Greco-Roman Jews, Mesopotamian Jews and Judeans,” says Elhaik.

“Their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga, with roots stretching to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan.”
Many things are unknown about the Khazars, whose tribal confederation gathered Slavs, Scythians, Hunnic-Bulgars, Iranians, Alans and Turks.

But, argues Elhaik, the tale sketched in the genes is backed by archaeological findings, by Jewish literature that describes the Khazars’ conversion to Judaism, and by language, too.

“Yiddish, the language of Central and Eastern European Jews, began as a Slavic language” before being reclassified as High German, he notes.

...

The investigation should help fine-tune a fast-expanding branch of genomics, which looks at single-change DNA mutations that are linked with inherited disease, adds Elhaik.

Anonymous said...

It's antisemitic to call them juice Khazars, facts nonwithstanding, just like it is calling the Holomyth for what it really is.
Just that you know...

"People without free speech are NOT free men"
The people curtailing your speech are in fact, your MASTERS, which makes you a serf at best, and a slave at worst. Choose which one YOU are...

Anonymous said...

Zionists design myth of J***** genome to usurp Palestine

presstv.com/detail/2013/02/26/290941/zionists-preach-bogus-claims-to-palestine/

...Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of J***** genome research upside down...The young Israeli-Ameican geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up...
They perpetrated the fraud solely to support the bogus biblical claim to Palestine which was anchored in their being a separate people. This distinguished them from all others because they claimed a land title in their blood. They bet the farm on this DNA proof of purchase, a God given bar coded passport to the Palestine. Dr. Ehaik just erased the bar code. It was just stamped on anyway, because it was never in the blood...
Why, why did they do it? The second half of the answer not revealed in his research was that you had a bunch of atheist, communist J*** shoot their way into taking over the Land with the sole moral cover that 'God gave it us only'...
Arthur Koestler's The Thirteen Tribe was a major influence in cracking the fraud... a moral tipping point challenge to the Zionist false claim on the Land... Dr. Elhaik literally nails the fraudsters to the cross, “....[they] assumed that the J*** constitute a group that is genetically isolated from other nations.”...That's because J*** were never genetically isolated, making all those other studies fatally flawed and very often contradictory... Well, his research paper was published by the Oxford University Press, in the prestigious journal Genome Biology and Evolution. ...“The various groups of J*** in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. We are talking here about groups that are very heterogeneous and which are connected solely by religion...[the] genome of European J*** is a mosaic of ancient peoples and its origin is largely Khazar.”...
Dr. Elhaik's research shows that the dominant element in the genetic makeup of European J*** is Khazar. For Central European J*** it is 38%, while for East Europeans it is 30%. To that you can add his findings that in both groups their genome is mostly Western European. Surprise, surprise...
But here comes the slam dunk...the Israel connection is such a tiny part of their overall genome that it cancels out their DNA title claim to the Land... calling a spade a spade. What Dr. Elhaik has discovered folks is a 'reverse holocaust', the inventing of huge numbers of pseudo-J*** who have no more a blood claim to the land of Palestine than I do, even if I converted...then all you have is the tribe, the DNA, which unites them to a shared history of persecution. But that folks, is now all gone. Poof...gone...
Who among use does not have some genetic make up of a people who had suffered in ancient times, even numbers of different peoples, five or ten different ones? Why should we allow the pretend-a-J*** to send all of our gene pool to the back of the historical suffering bus as Club Med ancestors who enjoyed the 'all inclusive' treatment. I find that just a bit too convenient...So these 'J***', are they then just a gang, united to be against all those not in the gang? Have they invented the whole story in a way like gang members take an oath and defend territory? And is that not where Herzl and others before him saw an opening, that the Land could be a territory bond to unite J*** who were always fighting like cats and dogs amongst each other?...
And is not the 2000 years of persecution claimed mostly by those who are not really descended from those actual people? Who really has holocausted whom here, and why? We had Golda Meir's instant holocausting of the Palestinian people with her infamous, “There are no Palestinian people.”... poetic justice from Dr. Elhiak, that he brings us scientific proof of there being no biblical J***** people as such as they have presented themselves? And does this not also make a fraud of the historical 'anti-semite' smear, by a people who aren't even semites?

Anonymous said...

SIX MILLION J*** IN THE NEWS BETWEEN 1915-1938

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/six-million-jews-in-the-news-between-1915-1938/

That Magical #6

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/that-magical-6/

Anonymous said...

On You Tube the Auschwitz director admits that Russian soldars constructed the gas chamber AFTER the war. The camp had a swimming pool and a complaint's office, which is pretty rare for a ''Death Camp''. According to the RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL during WW2 in the camps a TOTAL number (not only jews) of 273.000 people died. So ...... the 6 million is nonsense.
LUTHER PENDRAGON

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