Jobbik Mayoral Candidate Péter Jakab reply to Rabbi Slomó Köves

Thursday, July 3, 2014

A few days ago, Rabbi Slomó Köves wrote an open letter to Jobbik Mayoral Candidate Péter Jakab who happens to have Jewish ancestry trying to convince him that he represented the wrong party.

Among others things the the Rabbi writes: The party you represent wants to compile Jews, which would include yourself, the same way your party's intellectual forerunners did to your ancestors.

You are a member of a party whose members praise books such as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Mein Kampf, and the works of Ferenc Szálasi, while using your 'origin' as a shield.

Péter Jakab reply


In the letter your wrote to me you said you worried about me, but in fact the letter indicates you rather worried about the deceptive ideology you represent, which is collapsing in front of our eyes: Jobbik is not an anti-Semitic party! In fact, Jobbik is the only party that doesn't divide people on the basis of their origin, but on the basis of their contribution to the common good. We are the only political party that does not grant privileges to people on the basis of their skin color. We represent genuine equality when we say the law applies equally to everyone, regardless of the individuals' ethnic background.

You live far away from the numbered streets of Miskolc that's why you accuse Jobbik of wanting to chase the poor out of the city. You are wrong. Jobbik wants to turn uncivilized people into civilized citizens. Those who are not partners in this endeavor have no place in our city - you can adopt these people if you want to learn more about their inherent "values".

You say Jobbik wants to compile Jews including myself. You are wrong, many times over. I'm Hungarian and a Hungarian citizen. Jobbik doesn't want to compile Jews, but dual citizens after all a representative can't serve two homelands. You should know this better because this is also the rule in the Israeli Knesset.

Jobbik condemns the principle of collective guilt including Jewish claims that the Hungarian nation as a whole is to be blamed for the Jewish Holocaust; you want our compatriots to be punished for crimes they have never committed, because they didn't even live at a time when those crimes were perpetrated. My great-grandfather wasn't killed by the Hungarian nation, but certain individuals.

I have been a member of Jobbik for many years and I know that this is the only party that can bring a brighter future to the country. And in this future, has place for any decent citizen irrespective of his origin.

Let me suggest something to you as a Hungarian citizen with Jewish background; the time is right for Hungarian Jews, and in particular the leaders of the Hungarian Jewish community to reflect upon their relations to the Hungarian nation. Instead of the incessant accusations, self-pity and contempt of Hungarians it would be better to start contemplating how is it possible that Hungarian Jews support almost exclusively the left-liberal ideology that is subverting Hungarian national interests and values. If the leaders of the Hungarian Jewish community come to the point of raising this question that would be a major step forward towards reconciliation.

I agree with you in one thing: every person is responsible only for his/her own deeds. Therefore, if your claims are motivated by moral considerations and not financial gains you should also agree with me in this: there is no room for double standards when assessing collective responsibility. The Hungarian nation owes nothing to the Jews, neither sense of guilt nor financial compensation. If you do not think so, then I am the one who start worrying about ordinary Hungarians and as a Hungarian for all Hungarians.

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

No Jews allowed in politics, Period!! They are not valid to hold any office.

Angela Bogaczy said...

Péter Jakab looks and writes like an upright Hungarian. There is no reason to doubt that he is anything other than that. Yet I am very uncomfortable, despite your excellent research, Anonymous.

A friend seeking to calm me down pointed out that the Csanád Szegedi saga is a poor comparison here. His argument is that we shall not see Jakab prancing around in the EP building in a fancy vest to prove his Hungarian-ness, nor shall we hear him voicing the 'them and us' electoral demagoguery that Szegedi was so fond of. Instead, we can expect Jakab to emphasise reconciliation, and the Jewish responsibility to promote it, just as he did in this reply open-letter to Slomó Köves.

OK. I can come at this. I can even come at the proposal that Szegedi is finally good PR for Jobbik, for the worst he can do is wear sackcloth and ashes for having been part of this 'antisemitic' party. That is, he has not been able to come up with a single instance of anything that might be an indictment of Jobbik on either the 'racist' or the 'antisemitic' front.

So what's bugging me? It's this: Our trust in Hungarian Jewery has been betrayed three types in major, injurious ways: first in the treacherous, murderous diktatura in 1919, then during the long life of the Bolshevik terror-state that set in 1945 and murdered, maimed and imprisoned Hungarians orgiastically. Finally, in our own time, the maszop thugs brought Hungary to the brink of economic ruin as they sold out the country for personal profit, using their political and ‘establishment’ power against us after the supposed regime change in 1990.

Trust is fragile. Once betrayed, it is difficult to re-build. Thrice betrayed, it might be permanently destroyed. And there is no evidence to the contrary. For instance, I hear no Jewish voices supporting Jakab's advice to pursue reconciliation.

Géza said...

There will be no Jewish voices supporting Jakab's advice to pursue reconciliation Angela. Jakab stands on his own, like some other people with a "jewish" background. But let's not forget, Jakab has mostly hungarian blood.

Angela Bogaczy said...

That's interesting, Géza, and a relief. (Sorry.) If you know his genealogy, please tell. And I think your first sentence makes an accurate prediction.

szebbjovot said...

Hello Angela, my previous comment seems to have been posted on the wrong topic (not sure why).

I will post it again here:

"Let's not be hypocritical, we complain that Jews in Hungary aren't patriotic enough, but when they are they are, for some they are still not 'real Hungarians'. It's the equivalent of putting the hoop a bit higher when nobody is looking to make it harder to jump through, and we shouldn't stoop to such trickery."

Angela Bogaczy said...

Szebbjovot, are you saying that we make it hard for Jews to be patriotic Hungarians? That bemuses me. Have we done any hoop raising for any of the following who have made scurrilous public attacks on Hungary (often in the foreign press or in the EP) in the course of the past few years?

György Konrád, Ágnes Heller, Miklós Haraszti, Tamás Bauer, János Kenedi, Ference Kőszeg, Sándort Radnóti, Ádám Fischer, Iván Fischer, András Schiffer, Gábor Demszky, Máriá Vásárhelyi, Mátyás Eörsi, Kinga Göncz, Fruzsina Magyar, Paul Lendvai, Charles Gati, János Fónagy, Tamás Fellegi, Tamás Deutsch, András Lánczi, Árpád Habony, Dávid Vitézy, Zsófia Vitézy, Zsuzsa Hegedűs, Ákos Kertész, Dániel Karsai, Tamás Iván Kovács, Gordon Bajnai, Péter Dániel, András Heisler … (There are quite a few more, but I’m out of breath!)

And did any of their fellow Jews raise objections to their behaviours? You know, I see no hoop, let alone any that we have raised sneakily.

I’d be interested to see your list of Jews who have sought to be patriotic Hungarians but were prevented by the hoop-raising practice of ours that you posit.

szebbjovot said...

No, you are misunderstanding (or perhaps I am not being clear enough).

The biggest argument against Jews is that they are disloyal/unpatriotic, which is a fair statement and there is more than enough evidence to support it.

But the ones (most likely minority) who are patriotic, such as Jakab, still get looked down upon by some Hungarians.
To those people, it doesn't matter what Jakab does, even if he wins and wipes out Gypsy crime in Miskolc, he will still be "only a Jew".

Angela Bogaczy said...

Sorry, szebbjovot, but I simply do not think this is anywhere near true: ' it doesn't matter what Jakab does, even if he wins and wipes out Gypsy crime in Miskolc, he will still be "only a Jew".' Take, for instance, the attitude of Hungarians to the journalist Lovas Pisti, a Jew and a fervent Hungarian nationalist: Have you ever heard anyone seek to demean his Hungarian identity? And the much-loved poet and patriot Miklós Radnóti: does anyone doubt that he is a Hungarian poet? (There must be others, but none come to mind right now.)

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