Comments on Hungarian Ambiance: The long awaited interview with Flores

Please, if you haven't been to Santa cruz don't ev...

2009-04-25T05:44:39.691-07:00

Please, if you haven't been to Santa cruz don't even speak, obiously you don't now about the rampant racism against andean people there, Thats what this dude was supporting, I'm sure Evo ordered their detention but things in situations like this things can get ugly quickly and there you have it, armed suspects, trigger happy police, what do you expect handshakes? I for one don't want dicks like

oh, i see. so sometimes murder and torture are jus...

2009-04-25T00:43:38.920-07:00

oh, i see. so sometimes murder and torture are just ok, even desirable. provided that, on the basis of your own perception based on god knows what, you don't like the victim, brand them racists or whatever you find convenient,that you disagree with their political beliefs or with their preferences. well that's so much more humane and democratic than what morales (who killed them, and not the

This guy was a douche, an action thrill seeker not...

2009-04-24T15:03:31.443-07:00

This guy was a douche, an action thrill seeker not a patriot, I'm glad he is dead and hopefully they will they be able to disband these sad bunch of anarchist and racists trying to break up Bolivia.

morales ordered the "action". he said so himself. ...

2009-04-24T01:22:07.707-07:00

morales ordered the "action". he said so himself. now they say they were tortured...

the picture morales (obviously it's a lawless country where laws are broken at morales' will and where people have no human rights and no legal protection. the government forces act like mafia and execute people in cold blood, then destroy the evidence, for god's sake) is now "leaking" to the media is

you know what?.. you are speaking because you dont...

2009-04-24T00:48:45.424-07:00

you know what?.. you are speaking because you dont know how is the real Bolivia and how is Morales. I am Bolivian and i would tell you guys that Morales is the worse president we ever had. He support Narcotrafic, guns traffic, racism, and so on.
where is the human rights? haa?..
i really dont know what Roszas was doing in Santa Cruz, but i dont think he was doing nothing wrong. That

Well, you could say that police acted brutally and...

2009-04-23T06:47:16.765-07:00

Well, you could say that police acted brutally and unjustified, but instead you say everything was Morales (Morales killed, Morales put blankets, etc). Morales was travelling to Venezuela. Assuming that your theory is right (which is only a guess, good you use that verb for the first time) it could be responsability of the police. But you prefer to say it was Morales himself who gave the orders.

i'm so glad that now eduardo and his associates ar...

2009-04-23T00:46:08.227-07:00

i'm so glad that now eduardo and his associates are dead there will be no civil war in bolivia.*

don't you see - whatever explanation you come up with - the FACT REMAINS: THE ONLY VICTIMS HERE are the three dead men. everyone else (besides to other 2 tortured ones in the prison) is ALIVE AND WELL. there was no crime, only unlawful punishment for a crime never committed - preemptive "

no, now i think maybe after the autonomy in last j...

2009-04-23T00:30:57.886-07:00

no, now i think maybe after the autonomy in last january there was no need anymore to train the army so much and maybe that is why they were just hanging out there in hotels, posting on blogs stuff that has nothing to do with bolivia. maybe they were just waiting a couple more months and then they would return home, like planned, like maybe to get married back home in hungary like eduardo was

Again, YOU say it's an execution, without a proof....

2009-04-22T14:05:49.848-07:00

Again, YOU say it's an execution, without a proof. Police say there was a fight. Opposition say it was an execution. I cannot say what happened until there is a investigation, can you? Apparently you can: you say it was an execution without a proof, for your political views convenience.

No one will admit they're practising ethnic cleansing, but believe me: is Comité por Santa Cruz who

look man, you cannot kill people just because of t...

2009-04-22T12:45:20.995-07:00

look man, you cannot kill people just because of their political beliefs or because they are posing with guns.

unfortunately i don't speak hungarian, but what i heard of that interview related by journalists is that they wanted an autonomy through peaceful means and that the army was supposed to be there in case santa cruz is attacked by morales forces and has to secede violently. (

"Assasinate people who disagrees with you". Well, ...

2009-04-22T12:15:49.640-07:00

"Assasinate people who disagrees with you". Well, that's your opinion, I'm talking about facts. It's not that they disagree. You don't "disagree" posing with guns and machine guns, do you? They went to Bolivia searching for a civil war they didn't find.

If the idea was to kill them, thay would have killed ALL of them, not letting any witness alive (Tadic and Tóásó).

You say

the point is that nothing can ever justify an extr...

2009-04-22T12:03:08.640-07:00

the point is that nothing can ever justify an extra-judicial execution, not even evidence of alleged plot to assassinate the president (which, it is now obvious, everyone believes to be bullshit, since morales has not only not presented any evidence to prove his slanderous and baseless allegations, but has actually destroyed all the evidence he could).

it seems that the ones plotting

he went to bolivia to organize an army to defend s...

2009-04-22T10:37:52.104-07:00

he went to bolivia to organize an army to defend santa cruz in case there is a violent break-up, which was supposed to be the means of last resort. they were hoping to get autonomy but to remain part of bolivia and obtained by peaceful means, or so i heard. so what is so wrong with regional autonomy, especially if people of different ethnic origin make a majority in the area or region concerned?

Well, its a FACT that Rózsa went to Bolivia to par...

2009-04-22T08:18:55.857-07:00

Well, its a FACT that Rózsa went to Bolivia to participate in a war: it's what he says in the interview. Too bad there was no war, so he had to improvise one. Don't expect people to believe that a band prepared to participate in a guerrilla against a democratically elected government would wait six months -they arrived in october- sleeping in hotels for the war to start. Come on!

The interview can be viewed here: http://www.mtv....

2009-04-22T07:31:10.989-07:00

The interview can be viewed here:

http://www.mtv.hu/videotar/?id=42581

yes, i see how democratic he is. executing people ...

2009-04-22T03:42:32.533-07:00

yes, i see how democratic he is. executing people who wouldn't agree with him in cold blood and without trial, in police operations that also violate the country's laws and then covering up the truth, deleting info from the computers, turning off the cameras... if you are democratic and right then you have nothing to hide and nothing to be afraid from the truth.
also, i just love these

Morales is the president elected and confirmed in ...

2009-04-22T02:48:18.603-07:00

Morales is the president elected and confirmed in a referendum with over 60% of the vote. There was no more democratic and honest president than he in the history of the country.

morales is a terrorist or a war criminal if you li...

2009-04-22T00:43:59.339-07:00

morales is a terrorist or a war criminal if you like (remember, he ordered the execution of three people sleeping in the middle of the night in their hotel rooms in violation of his country's procedures and laws, obviously with no evidence to support his claims of assassination attempt) rozsa was a hero (he was never tried for any war crimes). everyone who really knew him loved him: people in his

And what do we ensure that your name is Patricio L...

2009-04-21T23:30:07.064-07:00

And what do we ensure that your name is Patricio Lynch? Rozsa was a murder. I am proud of my country that has managed to avert the danger of the terrorist.

it is unfortunate but there are always rats as ano...

2009-04-21T22:52:51.370-07:00

it is unfortunate but there are always rats as anonyme, people who are cowardly and dark eduardo was a man with power, with great force, some people can never understand what it means to be a real man. be a brave man who loves to fight for their ideals.

Byes Anonymous Rat

Interesting, I'd love to speak some hungarian and ...

2009-04-21T19:09:50.374-07:00

Interesting, I'd love to speak some hungarian and watch the whole interview. My view on this subject is that Rózsa went to Bolivia to participate in a civil war. When he realized there was no civil war going on, and it was not about to start, he decided to make it happen. How? Putting bombs against both goverment and opposition personnel to create chaos and make them accuse and finally attack